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&lt;p&gt;	More than the flailing economy is plaguing former business-to-business heavyweights Ariba Inc. and Commerce One Inc. as they struggle to gain traction against ERP (enterprise resource planning) vendors who are leveraging broader installed bases and enterprise offerings.
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&lt;p&gt;Both Ariba, based in Mountain View, Calif., and Commerce One, in Pleasanton, Calif., reported widening second-quarter losses this month while competitors SAP AG and PeopleSoft Inc. reported positive results for the corresponding period.
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&lt;p&gt;To help stem its losses, Commerce One last week announced that, starting with Intel Online Services, it will be partnering with infrastructure providers to offer hosted versions of its e-marketplace software.
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&lt;p&gt;David Dobrin, president of B2B Analysts in Cambridge, Mass., said ERP vendors like PeopleSoft and SAP have developed competitive e-procurement products that they can sell cheaply to their installed base. But Ariba and Commerce One are struggling to sell new licenses to a market for indirect procurement that comprises only two percent of the total market for automating enterprise processes, Dobrin said.
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&lt;p&gt;&quot;They are returning to their natural positions ... from a huge overvaluation,&quot; Dobrin said. &quot;Ariba and Commerce One are becoming niche vendors in a small niche. You should expect overvalued niche vendors to be sucking wind.&quot;
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&lt;p&gt;But Ariba&#039;s Chairman Keith Krach said the company has an advantage when competing against ERP vendors because its product can interface with multiple vendors&#039; back-office systems. Ariba can also sell strategic sourcing software, Krach said.
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&lt;p&gt;Still, Ariba is in a &quot;dangerous, tenuous&quot; position because it has begun focusing on specific vertical industries without the aid of a lucrative partnership, said Louis Columbus, an analyst at AMR Research in Boston. &quot;They don&#039;t have an SAP to help them survive,&quot; Columbus said. &quot;They have to build their own domain expertise.&quot;
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&lt;p&gt;Although Commerce One does have the partnerships with SAP and now Intel to aid it, the company still must focus on executing these partnerships, Columbus said.
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&lt;p&gt;&quot;Commerce One is looking for every potential revenue opportunity it can get its hands on,&quot; Columbus said. &quot;They need to prove they can execute partnerships ... they&#039;ve always had a problem with making partnerships pay off.&quot;
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&lt;p&gt;But not all e-procurement players are caught up in this conflict. Clarus this month announced partnerships with Microsoft Great Plains and Manugistics to embed its e-procurement and settlement application into their solutions. In addition, Clarus announced last week that it has aligned with Commerce One in a global, multiyear strategic agreement where Clarus will offer its settlement service -- to complete b-to-b financial transactions -- to Commerce One customers. In addition, Clarus will offer its customers access to Commerce One-powered e-marketplaces from its e-procurement platform.
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&lt;p&gt;Steve Hornyak, executive vice president and chief strategy officer at Atlanta-based Clarus Corp., said the company has elected to focus on collaborative selling rather than combat ERP vendors in potential deals &quot;where the customer loves them and they&#039;re upgrading.&quot;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2001 15:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
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