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 <title>Well...not Oct 1 but Oct 30</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;!--paging_filter--&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.9to5mac.com/iphone_china_challenges&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Well...not Oct 1 but Oct 30 instead.&lt;a / rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:00:06 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>David Kuan</dc:creator>
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 <title>That was quick!
Ian</title>
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 <description>&lt;!--paging_filter--&gt;&lt;p&gt;That was quick!&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:13:46 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Ian Lamont</dc:creator>
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 <title>Unicom to sell Apple iPhones</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;!--paging_filter--&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://tech.yahoo.com/news/nm/20090928/tc_nm/us_chinaunicom&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Unicom to sell Apple iPhones in China from October 1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:18:24 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>David Kuan</dc:creator>
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 <title>The iPhone will be released</title>
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 <description>&lt;!--paging_filter--&gt;&lt;p&gt;The iPhone will be released in China this year, therefore rendering a negative judgment. Details here:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thestandard.com/news/2009/08/28/china-unicom-sell-iphone-next-quarter&quot; title=&quot;http://www.thestandard.com/news/2009/08/28/china-unicom-sell-iphone-next-quarter&quot;&gt;http://www.thestandard.com/news/2009/08/28/china-unicom-sell-iphone-next...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 08:59:30 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Ian Lamont</dc:creator>
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 <title>Thanks, David.
A note to all</title>
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 <description>&lt;!--paging_filter--&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks, David.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A note to all participants: If the analyst cited in the Reuters article is correct and an announcement is made over the next week, the deciding factor for this prediction will be the launch date -- that is, the actual sale date for Chinese consumers. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;An announcement on its own will be insufficient for judgment unless the parties involve state which month or quarter consumers can buy the device.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:32:14 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Ian Lamont</dc:creator>
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 <title>http://www.reuters.com/articl</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;!--paging_filter--&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSTRE57Q0NY20090827&quot; title=&quot;http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSTRE57Q0NY20090827&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSTRE57Q0NY20090827&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:28:05 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>David Kuan</dc:creator>
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 <title>But they would deny that,</title>
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 <description>&lt;!--paging_filter--&gt;&lt;p&gt;But they would deny that, wouldn&#039;t they? If not from pressure from Apple, but for preserving their own negotiating leverage?&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:47:21 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Ian Lamont</dc:creator>
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 <title>Unicom denies 5M iPhone</title>
 <link>http://www.thestandard.com/predictions/no-apple-iphone-released-china-2009#comment-12872</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;!--paging_filter--&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thestreet.com/story/10575642/1/china-unicom-denies-its-buying-5m-iphones.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Unicom denies 5M iPhone purchase rumor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:26:39 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>David Kuan</dc:creator>
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 <title>Latest .... China Unicom</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;!--paging_filter--&gt;Latest .... &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20090812/china-unicom-buysmillion-iphones-from-apple-ready-sale-september.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;China Unicom buys 5 million iPhones from Apple, ready for sale in September&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:37:10 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>David Kuan</dc:creator>
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 <title>Conflicting rumors and</title>
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 <description>&lt;!--paging_filter--&gt;&lt;p&gt;Conflicting rumors and denials on a Fortune blog:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/07/28/chinas-iphone-deal-new-details-emerge/&quot; title=&quot;http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/07/28/chinas-iphone-deal-new-details-emerge/&quot;&gt;http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/07/28/chinas-iphone-dea...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:07:57 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Ian Lamont</dc:creator>
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 <title>Apple and Chinese</title>
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 <description>&lt;!--paging_filter--&gt;&lt;p&gt;Apple and Chinese authorities are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thestandard.com/news/2009/07/12/iphone-closer-china-launch-network-tests&quot;&gt;reportedly getting close  on the iPhone&lt;/a&gt; -- sticking points governing security protocols and wifi access are being worked out. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But this section of the article has a direct impact on the prediction:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Still, the handset could finish the tests and receive its network access license within three months, possibly helping speed talks with China Unicom, Zhang said. Sales could then start by Apple&#039;s target period early next year, he said.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:03:05 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Ian Lamont</dc:creator>
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 <title>Deals in China is never</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;!--paging_filter--&gt;Deals in China is never certain. Lots of political wrangling, bribery, back-alley deals and Intellectual Property issues. It is well known to reverse engineer and sell clones without much retributions.Merrill Lynch merely assumes an expectation of a deal to coincide with launch of 3G service in China. Not really that strong of an argument in my opinion.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:04:02 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>David Kuan</dc:creator>
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 <title>This is interesting. Lots of</title>
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 <description>&lt;!--paging_filter--&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is interesting. Lots of evidence recently that an iPhone in China is likely this year, yet the community consensus has actually risen from 31% to 39%, which would indicate that some participants don&#039;t believe it. Is there other data out there that would explain this trend?&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:18:14 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Ian Lamont</dc:creator>
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 <title>Merrill Lynch expects the</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;!--paging_filter--&gt;Merrill Lynch expects the iPhone to go on sale in China on October 1-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://tech.yahoo.com/news/nm/20090619/tc_nm/us_apple_unicom&quot; title=&quot;http://tech.yahoo.com/news/nm/20090619/tc_nm/us_apple_unicom&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tech.yahoo.com/news/nm/20090619/tc_nm/us_apple_unicom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:36:37 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Tay Bass</dc:creator>
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 <title>More evidence that Apple and</title>
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 <description>&lt;!--paging_filter--&gt;&lt;p&gt;More evidence that Apple and China are getting closer to resolving their alleged differences:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thestandard.com/news/2009/06/11/chinese-iphone-deal-shows-more-hints-progress&quot; title=&quot;http://www.thestandard.com/news/2009/06/11/chinese-iphone-deal-shows-more-hints-progress&quot;&gt;http://www.thestandard.com/news/2009/06/11/chinese-iphone-deal-shows-mor...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The job posting from Apple is particularly convincing that this will happen sooner rather than later.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:56:18 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Ian Lamont</dc:creator>
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 <title>No Apple iPhone released in China in 2009?</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;!--paging_filter--&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Apple CEO Steve Jobs and chief operating officer Tim Cook reportedly met with China Mobile execs three times before &lt;a href=&quot;http://tmt.interfaxchina.com/news/1295&quot;&gt;talks to bring the iPhone to China failed&lt;/a&gt;. Major sticking points between Apple and China&#039;s largest mobile carrier include control over iPhone&#039;s app store and revenue share. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Despite &lt;a href=&quot;/predictions/apple-announces-chinese-iphone-launch-feb-2009&quot;&gt;rumors that the iPhone was coming to China in early 2009&lt;/a&gt;, the Chinese still don&#039;t legally have a way to buy the popular mobile device that is manufactured in Shenzhen province. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Prediction: &lt;/b&gt;Apple will not launch the iPhone in China by Dec. 31, 2009.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Image: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/7552007@N05/&quot;&gt;The Tenth Dragon&lt;/a&gt;/Flickr &lt;/p&gt;
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