The Industry Standard - Apple iPhone outsells Blackberry in Q4 '08? - Comments

Just to make it official,

David Kuan — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:45:21 -0400

Just to make it official, RIMM reports 7.8M units in Q4

@Marc, this is nothing

David Kuan — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:42:22 -0400

@Marc, this is nothing compared to the 15 weeks I had to wait for a judgment on the Ad spending will shift from impression to performance-based marketing in 2008. Not only did I have to wait nearly 4 months after bet is closed, when the judgment was made, it was the WRONG judgment!. It cost me about S$1M (S$650K bet and S$350K gain)!!!!! I am still awaiting TIS response to my protest.

@David, @Marc, Happy April

Yi-Wyn Yen167771 — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:53:06 -0400

@David, @Marc, Happy April Fools! We'll "push the button" tomorrow when RIM reports its actual Q4 '08 numbers.

@David, I think TIS is

Marc Chiang — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:29:18 -0400

@David, I think TIS is trying to lock up our funds so that they can earn interest while delaying the pay out. Banks do this all the time.

@TIS, 2 more weeks have

David Kuan — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:52:54 -0400

@TIS, 2 more weeks have passed. Judgment is way overdue.

@TIS, why isn't this judged

David Kuan — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:21:14 -0400

@TIS, why isn't this judged yet?

Gartner's report on 4Q sales

Company	4Q08 Sales	Market Share 4Q08 (%)	4Q07 Sales/td>	Market Share 4Q07 (%)	4Q07-4Q08 Growth (%)
Nokia	15,561.7	40.8	18,703.3	50.9	-16.8
Research In Motion	7,442.6	19.5	4,024.7	10.9	84.9
Apple	4,079.4	10.7	1,928.3	5.2	111.6
HTC	1,631.7	4.3	1,361.1	3.7	19.9
Samsung	1,598.2	4.2	671.5	1.8	138.0
Others	7,829.7	20.5	10,077.3	27.4	-22.3
Total	38,143.3	100.0	36,766.1	100.0	3.7

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@Marc, you are exactly

David Kuan — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:38:09 -0400

@Marc, you are exactly right. TIS just need to "push the button" for judgment.

I agree. How is that done?

Marc Chiang — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:07:57 -0400

I agree. How is that done? I guess it requires the staff at TIS to push the button.

This prediction should be

David Kuan — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:43:23 -0400

This prediction should be judged UNFAVORABLY now that data is available.

Here is official Gartner

David Kuan — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 08:49:55 -0400

Here is official Gartner report

	Company	2008 Sales	Market Share 2008 (%)	2007 Sales Market Share 2007 (%)	Growth 2007-2008 (%)
Nokia	60,920.5	43.7	60,465.0	49.4	0.8
Research In Motion	23,149.0	16.6	11,767.7	9.6	96.7
Apple	11,417.5	8.2	3,302.6	2.7	245.7
HTC	5,895.4	4.2	3,718.5	3.0	58.5
Sharp	5,234.2	3.8	6,885.3	5.6	-24.0
Others	32,671.4	23.5	36,176.6	29.6	-9.7
Total	139,287.9	100.0	122,315.6	100.0	13.9

Gartner reports shows RIM

David Kuan — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 07:52:55 -0400

Gartner reports shows RIM sold 7.4M units while Apple sold 4.1M units in 4Q08.

Yet another survey

David Kuan — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:35:51 -0500

Yet another survey

More indication that RIM

David Kuan — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:22:38 -0500

More indication that RIM outsold Apple

Apple official numbers is

David Kuan — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:57:03 -0500

Apple official numbers is 4.36M in Q409 and RIM projected 7.5M-8M sold in Q409. This prediction is a sure bet to be closed unfavorably when actual numbers become available.

Apple iPhone outsells Blackberry in Q4 '08?

Marc Chiang — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:48:32 -0500

Judgment made on April 2, 2009: For the last three months of 2008, Apple sold 4.4 million iPhones worldwide to roughly 7.5 million units of Research in Motion's BlackBerry. This prediction did not come true, which the community got right. -- The Industry Standard

Apple’s popular iPhone device outsold Research In Motion’s BlackBerry brand for the first time ever in the third quarter.

On a worldwide basis, Apple sold nearly 6.9 million iPhones in the three month period ending September 27. That compares to 6.1 million smartphones sold by RIM.

But RIM is fighting back with the BlackBerry Storm, its first ever touchscreen smartphone, which is due to hit the North American market in the net couple of weeks.

Also, the Blackberry Bold was launched on election day. Furthermore, RIM is planning to launch its own applications store, similar to Apple’s, allowing users to download software designed by third-party developers directly onto their devices.

The crucial fourth quarter looks to be interesting. Apple sales have traditionally been strong in the fourth quarter with its consumer product focus. Corporate budgets are being slashed.

Is Blackberry going to play second fiddle to the Apple iPhone from here on? For this prediction to come true, iPhone sales (in units) must outsell Blackberry's combined sales (in units) for Q4'08 on a worldwide basis.