The Industry Standard - Where are they now: Flooz - Comments

I do not know what is

manspeaker — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:45:58 -0500

I do not know what is occuring on an international basis with the internet monies transfers, It c ould be the CID of The United State of America that is clanming down on what they consider a mass form of corruption. The Law Enforment of Internatioal Laws do not take the time to Judge people on an Individual basis. That to them is not of their mentality. If we could invent a way to free the people that the Govenment decided to arrest in Mass it would help.

Marc Manspeaker
11-17-2009

Like many others, I Want to

Winston Chambliss — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 04:48:28 -0400

Like many others, I Want to know what to do about my e-bullion account while its locked up.

forget about getting u money

Sun, 04 Jan 2009 11:24:58 -0500

forget about getting u money back. go file a lawsuit youself[waiting?,better do something to get u money back,do not wait,ty.

Yes! I am also waiting to

Geneva — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:20:05 -0500

Yes! I am also waiting to hear about e-bullion -- what's happening, please?
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hi am have been waiting

christy herndon — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:14:52 -0400

hi am have been waiting patiently for e-bullion to come back up. i kow that i am no the only one who have money tied into this. please let us know what they are planning to do?

I was a conumer who bought

MH Purple — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:10:59 -0400

I was a conumer who bought over $300 in Flooz.com online money. Once the company shutdown, I consistently heard there would be a lawsuit for those of us who trusted the online vendor. I have yet to have any of my monies, which was paid by credit card, returned. Was there a settlement? If so, would anyone know of the particulars. Please respond online if you have information to share. Thank You.
MH Purple

I was a member of e-gold. I

Manspeaker — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:36:54 -0400

I was a member of e-gold. I think it was and interesting and valuble concept in order to transfer assets on a worldwide basis. I did not understand how the system worked. If we could use the prescious metals in order to, as I have written about, to place the economy on a Gold - Precious Metals Standard, I think that would be very valuable for the economy and will stabilize the world economy.

Marc Manspeaker

9-2008

What I would like to know

MC — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:59:19 -0400

What I would like to know is, how is Flooz/e-Gold so much different from Paypal? I've personally witnessed "massive" amounts (several thousand Euros) going missing to CIS countries and Russia thanks to fraudulent Paypal transactions.

One of my bank accounts in Germany was significantly affected thanks to Paypal (I got it back, but not before much fighting with the bank - and next time I flew through Germany, I nearly missed my flight home because they needed to ask me questions about my identity).

I've been taken for a ride for "suspicious transactions", even though I faxed them a copy of my passport and phone bill, invoice and packing slip for the item in question - and I was already a verified seller - resultingly, I *still* have a locked Paypal account and am out a few hundred euros.

My former boss lost a laptop to someone in Latvia (about US$1000) thanks to a fraudulent Paypal transaction. I know I am not the only one here - thousands of others have had similar experiences - just look at sites like paypalsucks.com.

So my question is, why aren't these same measures being taken against Paypal? They [paypal] also operate in tax-free (and private) jurisdictions in Europe and I'm sure money laundering (as well as direct theft) goes on with that service. Because of the rampant problems with that service (far more than e-gold), I no longer accept Paypal as a form of payment, nor do I have/plan to ever again open a Paypal account.

Where are they now: Flooz

David Cotriss — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:10:50 -0400

Some of the most controversial business models in the early days of the Web were based on "alternative currencies." In today's installment of Where Are They Now, we profile one of the more well-known startups in this space. Flooz was a Web-based payment system which had a spectacular, high-profile run before a number of factors -- ranging from high operating expenses to security concerns -- forced the company to take radical steps to ensure its survival.

Founding: Flooz launched in 1999, co-founded by CEO Robert Levitan, who had earlier co-founded iVillage. Other co-founders included President Spencer Waxman and CTO Dermot McCormack. The company raised a $50 million round led by Oak Investment Partners.

History: The name of the service came from an Arabic term and French slang word for money. To customers, Flooz was an alternative Web-based currency for buying goods and giving gifts.

In an email interview with The Industry Standard, Levitan explains how the service worked: "Flooz.com built an online 'stored value' payment system which allowed people to send virtual gifts to others," he says. "For example, you could send a friend $100 of Flooz for their birthday [using their email address] and they could spend the Flooz to buy things online at more than 150 stores. Flooz was accepted as a form of payment in a similar way as Visa, MasterCard and American Express. One dollar of Flooz was equal to one U.S. dollar. You could divide your purchase among the sites that accepted Flooz and you could add more Flooz to your account as needed."

While a relatively small number of stores accepted Flooz, Levitan says that the list of partners included major retailers such as Barnes & Noble, Dick's Sporting Goods, Toys"R"Us, and Tower Records. Flooz was also helped by powerful buzz, which kicked into high gear after the company hired Whoopi Goldberg. The Oscar-winning star pitched the virtual currency in a series of expensive TV spots, and Flooz quickly gained popularity as an online gift currency.

Levitan says the company hoped the platform would enable new forms of ecommerce by making it easier for individuals to give gifts and for corporate customers to more efficiently and effectively administer reward programs for their employees. "Half our sales were to individuals and the other half were to corporate customers, the largest of which was Cisco Systems," he says.

At first, the business model seemed promising. According to Levitan, in 18 months, the company opened more than 1.2 million Flooz accounts and "the business grew to an annual run rate of $30 million in sales." It attracted retail partners by directing customers to online merchants and getting paid a fee based on performance.

Other alternative currency services were gaining traction at this time, including Beenz and CyberCash. In late 1999, Beenz and Flooz announced that consumers could buy Flooz with Beenz, although the executives from the two companies made pains to point out the differences in their respective business models.

But optimism started to fade in the beginning of the new decade. Levitan says the turning point came in April 2001 when Cisco Systems reported bad financial results and reduced previously scheduled purchases of Flooz by several million dollars.

Another big hit came when Flooz executives were informed by the FBI that a Russian organized crime syndicate was using Flooz and stolen credit card numbers as part of a money laundering scheme. Levitan says that the rate of fraudulent purchases spiked from less than one-twentieth of one percent to 19 percent of consumer credit card transactions in June and July 2001. Chase Merchant Services, which processed credit card transactions for the company, then imposed tens of thousands of dollars per month in fines for the excessive fraud rate. Chase also attempted to hold $2 million in company credit card deposits to cover the fraudulent transactions. Credit card fraud was already a major concern for online shoppers, and digital currencies were attractive to fraudsters due to its instant delivery and potential anonymity.

What Happened: In May 2001, even before the fraud problem snowballed, Flooz knew it was in trouble. There was never an IPO, and Flooz was unable to generate sufficient revenue. Executives began a radical plan to overhaul the company and cut operating expenses. Half of the staff was laid off. According to Levitan, the company also attempted to renegotiate its agreements with Chase, but was unsuccessful.

In September 2001 Flooz ran out of funds and ceased operations. The company never made a profit.

Where Are They Now? Robert Levitan is now CEO of rich media delivery company Pando Networks. Spencer Waxman is an investment manager at Shannon River Partners, and Dermot McCormack is an online executive at MTV Networks. Levitan reports running into Goldberg in recent years, but the star did not seem to have any hard feelings about the company's demise.

Reflecting on Flooz's failure, Levitan says several important lessons were learned. "Operate to build value through growth but always be prepared for the worst," he declares. "Market timing matters, and when market conditions turn, your strategic options can change quickly."

Flooz.com is currently a doorway page registered through Tucows, but the Standard was unable to determine its owner.

Were you an employee, customer, or client of this service? Then share your memories below! What did you like about the company? What didn't work? What other factors contributed to its success or failure?

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